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Friday, March 24, 2006

When Muslims Pray, Angels Must Cry...

Isn't it just a lovely religion? From the New York Times:
Afghan Clerics, in Friday Prayers, Call for Convert's Execution
By ABDUL WAHEED WAFA

KABUL, Afghanistan, March 24 — Afghan clerics used Friday Prayers at mosques across the capital to call for death for an Afghan man who converted to Christianity, despite widespread protest in the West.

As the international pressure on Afghanistan grew, the clerics demanded the execution of the Afghan, Abdul Rahman 41, if he does not convert back to Islam. His conversion 15 years ago was brought to the attention of Afghan authorities as part of a child custody dispute.

One speaker, Mawlavi Habibullah, told more than a thousand clerics and young people who had gathered in Kabul that "Afghanistan does not have any obligation under international laws."

The prophet says when somebody changes religion, he must be killed" he said.

He and others demanded that the country's political leaders and judges resist international pressure over the case, placing them squarely at odds with President Hamid Karzai, who has promised to bring democracy to Afghanistan.
Oh, my goodness it's just the most peaceful religion ever...NOT!

~qc~

9 comments:

BigLeeH 3/25/2006 05:08:00 PM  

"The prophet says when somebody changes religion, he must be killed" he said.

Hmmm. I wonder when the fatwa against Cat Stevens will be announced? He "changed religion" about the same time as Rahman.

Shawmut 3/27/2006 01:19:00 PM  

Using all the implements of modern warfare, we seem to have executed a regime change for a people who would go full speed in reverse to abide by laws of a less enlightened era.

For all our measures employed to insure human rights among our client states, we are duly faulted when we grant licenses to counries whose cultural priciples are less humane than our own.

Many years ago the country was outraged by the sentence of caning of an unruly American adolescent who went on a rampage of vandalism in Singapore. This was a punishment that was the law of that nation; not its culture.

Given the growing movement toward secularism, if the Afghan convert to Christianity wanted to declare himself an atheist the main streets of the world's major cities would be clogged with protests.

John Whiteside 3/27/2006 03:32:00 PM  

You should read the Old Testament sometime. It very clearly demands that God's followers kill anyone who does not worship God.

Of course, modern Christians have gotten good at ignoring their own religion when it's inconvenient, so there's an uneasy peace between modern society and ancient mythology.

Kevin 3/27/2006 08:35:00 PM  

John,

You should read the new testament sometime. After all that's where the

The fact that Judaism and Christianity have matured as faiths is a testament to them.

Islam has exhibited absolutely no tendancy or willingness to re-examine it's principles.

That's the million difference.

Tom Gaylord 3/28/2006 02:53:00 AM  

How did I find myself agreeing with a queer conservative? :) I'm normally at loggerheads with you lads!

I too am mystified as to how anyone can call Islam a religion of peace when it's crazies and it's militants appear to be running the show of late.

I enjoyed your blog, though I am awfully irritated by conservative gay guys......... I might keep reading and learn a little :)

Cheers
thomas
Australia

Simon9 3/29/2006 10:45:00 AM  

Although I agree with the thrust of your comments, QC, I don't quite follow how referring to the New Testament explains Judaism's maturation. The New Testament is a cornerstone of Christianity, but is irrelevant to Judaism.

That said, the "Religion of Peace" has a lot to learn from....oh, let's just say it....better religions.

Lori Heine 3/31/2006 09:28:00 PM  

When was the last time a gang of Christian terrorists flew a jetliner into a skyscraper?

Okay, so how about the last time Christian clerics called for the death of somebody who'd converted from Christianity to Islam?

How many thousands of Christians have we seen rioting in the streets because of cartoons insulting Jesus?

It might interest John to know that Christians are not bound to run out and commit every antisocial act commanded in the Old Testament. This isn't "ignoring our own religion when it's convenient," it is practicing the religious faith that evolved out of Old Testament Judaism.

I suppose it must be nitwits like a few of the more extreme fundamentalist Christians, with their jibber-jabber about putting gays to death, that has him confused. They don't understand their own faith, so why should he?

Confused people confuse people. It isn't hard to see why.

derek 4/03/2006 11:23:00 PM  

"When was the last time a gang of Christian terrorists flew a jetliner into a skyscraper? "

Bombing abortion clinics comes to mind. Kill the people, save the zygotes.

The inquisition. We're killing you for your own good. Repent so that God won't torture you with fire for all eternity.

Religion, regardless its flavor, continues to be as much a never-ending spring of violence as it ever has been, Christians are certainly not excluded.

Palestine (Jews vs. Muslims), the Balkans (Orthodox Serbians vs. Catholic Croatians; Orthodox Serbians vs. Bosnian and Albanian Muslims), Northern Ireland (Protestants vs. Catholics), Kashmir (Muslims vs. Hindus), Sudan (Muslims vs. Christians and animists), Nigeria (Muslims vs. Christians), Ethiopia and Eritrea (Muslims vs. Christians), Sri Lanka (Sinhalese Buddhists vs. Tamil Hindus), Indonesia (Muslims vs. Timorese Christians), Iran and Iraq (Shiite vs. Sunni Muslims), and the Caucasus (Orthodox Russians vs. Chechen Muslims; Muslim Azerbaijanis vs. Catholic and Orthodox Armenians).

Sam Harris has a great recent article about it.

Kevin 4/04/2006 08:34:00 AM  

Well Derek,

You are absolutely right. However, I'm speaking of today's world not history.

Christianity and Judaism have moderated and changed as society has matured. Islam is the same violent, bloody religion it was the day Mohammed dreamed it up.

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